Magandang araw sa inyong lahat.
nagiisip na kasi akong bumili ng unang gaming rig ko pagdating ng bonus sa November, ngayon ako nagpost kasi lumabas na yung pascal series eh.
tanong lang po:
if pure AMD ang gagawin meaning parehong AMD ang processor at RADEON ang graphics card ano pong magandang combination?
para sa amd/radeon
FX 8320E plus RADEON RX 480 na vid card
para naman sa intel/nvidia - more preferred build
i5-6600K tapos GTX 1060/1070/970
at kung hybrid naman pasuggest nalang din.
salamat po sa sasagot!
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AMD/RADEON or INTEL/NVIDIA gaming rig
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First thing to consider, para saan mo ba specifically gagamitin? Or let's say, ano ang focus? Gaming? Editing? Casual gaming/surfing? So here are my pointers that you may use to gain additional idea and/or choices.
* Pure Gaming?
- You can have AMD build. As it's focus more on gaming.
* Gaming and Editing?
- Go on Intel build. As Intel is good in a wide margin for Editing than AMD. Also, the multitasking of Intel too.
* Casual usage? There are many choice you might consider. You choose.
- Casual gaming/surfing - Go on AMD.
- You want a long term investment? Go on Intel.
* Just put these into your mind that:
- Intel = durability, multitasking, low-power consumption (specially Skylake)
- AMD = budget wise, pure gaming, specializes OC (for OC enthusiasts)
I've both used Intel and AMD and they have it's own advantages and disadvantages. It's up to you now on what to consider, the last choice is yours. (These are my own opinion and based on my experiences, studies, and research)
Good luck! :) - Post deleted #11721425
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among the choices, go Intel/Nvidia :)
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nope you can mix AMD to NVIDIA, INTEL to AMD
vise versa
for CPU side for both efficiency and performance at upgradability Intel side ang winner dyan AMD for budget but dead end ka na sa upgradability tsaka yung efficiency nya wait for AMD Zen kung AMD platform ang target CPU mo
sa GPU usually Vega 10 compate to older maxwell architecture pascal palang ang high end GPU ngayon
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OK din na maging informed sa tech news regarding sa bagong series / models na lumalabas, pero yung FX 8320E is an old CPU from 2014 on a dead AM3+ socket so I wouldn't advise on going that route. Maglalabas na din si AMD ng new socket and CPUs.
Wala naman morality in question kung hindi pure AMD build ang gagawin haha - it's all about getting your money's worth. -
First thing to consider, para saan mo ba specifically gagamitin? Or let's say, ano ang focus? Gaming? Editing? Casual gaming/surfing? So here are my pointers that you may use to gain additional idea and/or choices.
* Pure Gaming?
- You can have AMD build. As it's focus more on gaming.
* Gaming and Editing?
- Go on Intel build. As Intel is good in a wide margin for Editing than AMD. Also, the multitasking of Intel too.
* Casual usage? There are many choice you might consider. You choose.
- Casual gaming/surfing - Go on AMD.
- You want a long term investment? Go on Intel.
* Just put these into your mind that:
- Intel = durability, multitasking, low-power consumption (specially Skylake)
- AMD = budget wise, pure gaming, specializes OC (for OC enthusiasts)
I've both used Intel and AMD and they have it's own advantages and disadvantages. It's up to you now on what to consider, the last choice is yours. (These are my own opinion and based on my experiences, studies, and research)
Good luck! :)
Sir Lyme21 (guessing you're a male, no offense), maraming salamat sa pagreply! mostly on gaming kasi yun nga plano ko kasi the holiday's are coming up and I'm finding time to play again since nagwork. so baka maconsider as hardcore gaming, I know yung Intel/Nvidia build is more on durability and maglalast talaga kaya preferred ko siya pero and also I'm a programmer so baka magamit sa ganun editing wise naman hindi naman ako inclined sa ganun parang for future use nalang din yun. plus, hindi naman ako marunong pa magOC kaya baka andyan lang yan hanggang sa matutunan at tsaka hindi naman din kasi magkalayo price kaya mas maganda ng open yung option para dun.
salamat sa insights, may natutunan ako! -
@keem21
among the choices, go Intel/Nvidia :)
sir keem21, you think so? salamat! -
silentorange19
you can mix AMD to NVIDIA, INTEL to AMD
vise versa
for CPU side for both efficiency and performance at upgradability Intel side ang winner dyan AMD for budget but dead end ka na sa upgradability tsaka yung efficiency nya wait for AMD Zen kung AMD platform ang target CPU mo
sa GPU usually Vega 10 compate to older maxwell architecture pascal palang ang high end GPU ngayon
-- edited by silentorange19 on Jul 21 2016, 10:41 AM
Sir silentorange19, salamat sa reply. naiisip ko nga yung zen kaso hindi nako updated kung kelan yun lalabas kasi mukhang sa 2017 pa siya lalabas, problem ko lang with amd is kapag zen pa yung hihintayin ko may bagong chipset nanaman siya kaya yung mga balak kong bilhin ngayon baka hindi maging compatible plus, gusto ko na sana makabili this december para gift ko na din sa sarili ko. and yes, boto ako sa pascal na gpu as of now lalo na sa 1060 pasok sa 1080p gaming at 1070 medyo overkill sa 1080p pero atleast open for upgrades to 1440 -
@bluedude44
OK din na maging informed sa tech news regarding sa bagong series / models na lumalabas, pero yung FX 8320E is an old CPU from 2014 on a dead AM3+ socket so I wouldn't advise on going that route. Maglalabas na din si AMD ng new socket and CPUs.
Wala naman morality in question kung hindi pure AMD build ang gagawin haha - it's all about getting your money's worth.
sir bluedude44, salamat sa reply. yun nga problema ko sa AMD build luma na yung procs tapos medyo bago yung mga GPU. tapos kung maghihintay naman ako ng zen, actually baka di ko na mahintay. haha. well, medyo OC kasi ako sa ganun kaya pure ang gusto ko pero open ako sa option ng hybrid amd/intel build pero yun nga dati fan na ako ng AMD kaso nalate na sila maglabas ng mga bagong procs kaya medyo alanganin yun sa upgrades. money's worth talaga ang AMD lalo na comparing to procs ng Intel prices and Nvidia's cards. magkalayo talaga sila ng presyuhan. afterall, di naman ako nagbabalak mag4K lalo na't nasa Pilipinas na medyo mabagal ang net so for upgrades na siguro yung 4k monitor at 4k gaming. haha. -
Intel for proc and AMD for GPU. :)
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chassis Phanteks p400 TG / Fractal Design Meshify C (andito na ba)
proc - intel i5 7600k
cooler - cryorig h7 quad lumi
mobo - Gigabyte z270x gaming 5
graphics card - Gigabyte Aorus gtx 1070
ram - corsair vengeance 16GB dual
hdd - WD Caviar Blue 2TB
ssd - Samsung 850 evo 120GB/256GB / Sandisk Ultra II 120GB
psu - EVGA 750 GQ / EVGA 650 G2 / Seasonic X650
okay na po ba itong build ko? or may problema po dito?
anong magandang monitor na ipair din? :) salamat! -
quick question: 1 year na hindi kapa naka bili or building new one?
as of now, the only thing you might want to consider is either wait for coffee lake or bili mo yung Ryzen 5 1600X halos same price lang but better performance.
Talo ka ngayon pag i5 bili mo compare sa ryzen.
The rest of the parts is ok. -
KiraValentine32
quick question: 1 year na hindi kapa naka bili or building new one?
as of now, the only thing you might want to consider is either wait for coffee lake or bili mo yung Ryzen 5 1600X halos same price lang but better performance.
Talo ka ngayon pag i5 bili mo compare sa ryzen.
The rest of the parts is ok.
1 year na po kasi akong di nakakabili. wala namang problema kung maghihintay lang ako ulet pero tingin ko okay naman kung ganyan pero sure po bang talo yung i5 7600k sa Ryzen 5?
sorry medyo OC kasi ako sa intel/nvidia tapos amd/radeon combination at hindi ko po kasi makuhang bumili ng vega 64 na worth 45k -
Let me put things simple to update you on current PC compare last year.
Basically, kaka release ng AMD for the first time in a decade history na talo nya ang intel in both price and performance.
Mas marami actual core ang Ryzen over Intel so right now intel is losing huge market then plan nila maglabas ng 8th gen CPU but this time, they changed everything din. increase all number of cores to response to amd ryzen.
rendering all 7th gen and below practically worthless. intel i3-8350k beats core i7-7700k so kita mo ang difference pero hindi pa ito official and soon to be release this year.
So either Ryzen or the upcoming intel 8th gen ang smart choice ngayon sa CPU.
in terms of sa GPU, mas smarter choice pa rin ang nvidia over vega.
Ang nvidia kc on the same performance, around half the power consumption over vega. much lower price and better availability.
Vega right now is extremely overprice so hindi sya worth it for gamers.
This sums up everything. -
KiraValentine32 07 Sep 17 @ 01:06 AM #
Let me put things simple to update you on current PC compare last year.
Basically, kaka release ng AMD for the first time in a decade history na talo nya ang intel in both price and performance.
Mas marami actual core ang Ryzen over Intel so right now intel is losing huge market then plan nila maglabas ng 8th gen CPU but this time, they changed everything din. increase all number of cores to response to amd ryzen.
rendering all 7th gen and below practically worthless. intel i3-8350k beats core i7-7700k so kita mo ang difference pero hindi pa ito official and soon to be release this year.
So either Ryzen or the upcoming intel 8th gen ang smart choice ngayon sa CPU.
in terms of sa GPU, mas smarter choice pa rin ang nvidia over vega.
Ang nvidia kc on the same performance, around half the power consumption over vega. much lower price and better availability.
Vega right now is extremely overprice so hindi sya worth it for gamers.
This sums up everything.
sir Kira, maraming salamat sa lahat ng insights mo. actually i'm more into gaming lang din talaga nakakabasa din ako sa forums na yung 7600k beats 1600x pero all other aspects lamang yung 1600x. medyo nagaalangan pa nga din ako bumili kasi nagwawait sana ko sa coffee lake. and kung naging competitor lang talgaa yung vega i would've bought it with ryzen. kaso wala eh.
pero eto po kakabasa ko lang na may leaks na october baka iannounce na yung coffee lake na may 6cores yung i5 and i7. kung totoo man to, i can still wait. naka isang taon na ako naghihintay eh. -
Mas balance talaga ang Ryzen in overall use.
Pwde pa sana yung 7600k pero ang naging issue gamit ang thermal paste than solder ang intel so hindi rin ok for overclock.
that's what happens when intel selling 7700k pang OC then tell the user not to OC kc lumampas sa thermal limit. Nasusunog yung chip.
Kung gusto mo ng theme, Ryzen+Vega but medyo overprice ang vega and kailangan mo ng 700w minimum psu dahil sa takaw ng Vega.
but kung maka antay ka, surely coffee lake + nvidia would be a better deal for you kung sa choice of theme. Next month na lalabas ang coffee lake so its worth the wait.
eto yung article on specs, its worth to read it.
<click here for link>
my guessing ang sweetspot deal for price dyan yung i3-8350k (performance, price, overclock potential)
for the first time in intel na unlock ang i3 and its a quadcore
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If all you do with the PC is game then mas ok yung Intel. Pag may other productivity activities na gagawin then get Ryzen.
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KiraValentine32 on 07 Sep 17 @ 02:17 AM #
Mas balance talaga ang Ryzen in overall use.
Pwde pa sana yung 7600k pero ang naging issue gamit ang thermal paste than solder ang intel so hindi rin ok for overclock.
that's what happens when intel selling 7700k pang OC then tell the user not to OC kc lumampas sa thermal limit. Nasusunog yung chip.
Kung gusto mo ng theme, Ryzen+Vega but medyo overprice ang vega and kailangan mo ng 700w minimum psu dahil sa takaw ng Vega.
but kung maka antay ka, surely coffee lake + nvidia would be a better deal for you kung sa choice of theme. Next month na lalabas ang coffee lake so its worth the wait.
eto yung article on specs, its worth to read it.
<click here for link>
my guessing ang sweetspot deal for price dyan yung i3-8350k (performance, price, overclock potential)
for the first time in intel na unlock ang i3 and its a quadcore
sa Ryzen/Vega oo medyo overpriced and yung PSU medyo mataas kaya mahirap din. sayang talaga kung mura lang talaga yung vega eh.
here's to hoping na mairelease ang Coffee Lake ng October tapos makapagbenta before the year ends kasi kapag ganun sure buyer na talaga ako. niloolook forward ko na talaga yung 6 cores and 12 threads sa intel and yung mga bagong mobo kasi mukhang di sya compatible. sana talaga this year. ayaw ko na maghintay ng matagal na matagal di na ko papayag na 1 year ulet. haha. -
frankeedoodle on 07 Sep 17 @ 07:36 AM #
If all you do with the PC is game then mas ok yung Intel. Pag may other productivity activities na gagawin then get Ryzen.
yun nga eh. nagpprogram lang naman ako pero di naman ako nagrerender ng kung ano ano. wala din masyadong cpu intensive games na naiiisip ngayon. pero sayang din kasi yung chance na makabili ng coffee lake if it offers more on the table.
I have nothing against AMD in fact dapat mas gusto ko yung Ryzen Vega build kaso sobrang OP ng vega sa ngayon. -
Update: After a year, wala pa ding rig finally decided na this November bibili
okay na ba ako sa Intel/Nvidia:
planning to go Coffee lake
Intel core i5 8600k
Asus strix z370e
Asus strix gtx 1070oc
G Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB Dual 3000mHz
Western Digital Caviar Blue 2TB
Samsung 850 evo m.2 250GB
EVGA G2 750W
Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi
Fractal Design Meshify C