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  • gust nya ipa-change ang constitution kasi may mga batas na hindi pumabor kay PNoy..

    pero di nya alam yung nilalaman ng constitution ang nagpatalsik sa kalaban ni Pnoy na si Corona..

    so ano ito? pag di na papabor saka kakambyo? this isn't patriotism. FANATICISM tawag dyan and unjust at that
  • kaya nga nakakalito makipag usap sa kanya eh.. dapat nga i-uphold nya ang saligang batas kasi yan yung legacy ng mga magulang ni Ninoy.


    So ano ngayon ang gusto mo mangyari?
  • naiintindihan ko pa yung anti Pnoy siya pero ayaw ng charter change.

    madali lang sa lider yan, sumunod siya sa batas

    pero pro Pnoy siya pero gusto ng charger change.

    magulo nga.
  • gust nya ipa-change ang constitution kasi may mga batas na hindi pumabor kay PNoy..

    pero di nya alam yung nilalaman ng constitution ang nagpatalsik sa kalaban ni Pnoy na si Corona..

    so ano ito? pag di na papabor saka kakambyo? this isn't patriotism. FANATICISM tawag dyan and unjust at that


    You are assuming again, gusto ko ng parliamentary system para mas madali patalsikin ang magnanakaw. Kokonti ang ahensya so kokonti ang kickback.

    Kalokohan ang masyado madami ang sangay ng gobyerno kaya mas lalo lumiliit ang napupunta sa mamamayan

    Pag palpak ang Prime Minister, Resign agad or face graft charges. So ano FANATICISM dun?

    yung 1987 pabor na pabor ke Pnoy ngayon yun kase tignan mo naman, nakasuhol na pero hindi pwede makulong dahil me immunities. Nakita mo yung Flaw?

    Kunsabagay, hindi na makakaupo sa pweste ang mga known communist na si Teddy Casino. At hindi na magiging secretary general si Renato Reyes Jr. ng Partylist nilang Bayad Muna.

    Mantakin mo Communist sila pero galing sa Gobyerno yung pera nila pang hakot ng mga mal edukadong leftist na nag rarally na hindi nila alam ang pinaglalaban nila

    -- edited by hatake_kakashi on Jul 30 2014, 07:47 PM
  • pero pro Pnoy siya pero gusto ng charger change.

    magulo nga.


    Sige laymans term ko na lang, sino susuportahan mo? CCP NPA o Legit Government? Saan ka? Syempre ako ayaw ko sa Communism so kahit nakakasuka din yung legit government dun na lang ako sa "lesser evil"

    Pag hindi mo pa din na gets, google mo na lang o kaya paki tanong mo na lang sa mga FB friends mo ser

    -- edited by hatake_kakashi on Jul 30 2014, 07:35 PM
  • @tsismoso

    iwan muna natin si hatake.. kasi kahit sya nalilito na rin.. let us allow him time to collect his thoughts, baka pagsasagot tayo, pati sagot natin nakakalito rin

    -- edited by deadmanwade on Jul 30 2014, 07:38 PM
  • basta andon lahat ng kasagutan about sa komunista sa marcos thread.

    ninoy, former pres. cory, at pnoy

    sayang at nadelete lang.

    ot na to,

    bye
  • iwan muna natin si hatake.. kasi kahit sya nalilito na rin.. let us allow him time to collect his thoughts, baka pagsasagot tayo, pati sagot natin nakakalito rin


    My apologies if I am causing you to be confused. I admit, nakakalito ka talaga kausap. I don't know where you stand but thanks na din, I hope you enlighten me someday on where you stand ^_^
  • gust nya ipa-change ang constitution kasi may mga batas na hindi pumabor kay PNoy..

    pero di nya alam yung nilalaman ng constitution ang nagpatalsik sa kalaban ni Pnoy na si Corona..

    so ano ito? pag di na papabor saka kakambyo? this isn't patriotism. FANATICISM tawag dyan and unjust at that


    iba naman case ni Corona, sya ay may bahid ng pansariling interes.

    kahit sabihin pa natin na co-equal branches of government, a president still stands out over a chief justice.
  • dati ko pang sinasabi na walang perpekto. ang kulang lang talaga ng iba sa atin ay tiwala at respeto.

    walang perpektong constitution, kahit magtalaga ka pa ng perpektong presidente ayon sa perpektong constitution ang kailangan pa rin ng mamamayan ay tiwala. anytime pwedeng magbulsa ng pera ang mga nakaupo, kahit pa sabihin nating wala silang nilabag na batas. proven na yan lol, ewan ko na lang sa hindi nakakaalam nyan

    -- edited by dragonslash on Jul 30 2014, 08:10 PM
  • hint

    Sixto Brillantes Jr., the Comelec Chairman, is a cousin of Jose Maria "Joma" Sison.

    Leila de Lima, the DOJ Secretary, is a cousin of Joma Sison's wife Julie.

    Gina de la Cruz, the National Anti-Poverty Comission Assistant Secretary, is the wife of ABB leader Nilo de la Cruz.

    Etta Rosales, Commissioner of the Commission of Human Rights, is co-founder of Communist-leaning Akbayan.

    Ronald Llamas, the Presidential Political Adviser, is co-founder of Akbayan.

    Alex Padilla, GPH Negotiating Panel Chairperson, is lifetime leader of Communist youth group League of Filipino Students (LFS).

    And Mar Roxas, the DOTC Secretary is an influential member of Makabayan.

    It is strange that the government is embracing the CPP-NPA-ABB and the MILF like long lost brothers after all the crimes they committed against the nation through the years.

    The CPP-NPA-ABB is responsible for all the mass killings in provinces, and also the one which filled the countrysides with mass graveyards and 'booby traps'.

    The MILF and its affiliated groups, on the other hand, are responsible for the ramdom bombings around the country which maimed and killed many innocent lives -- mostly children.
  • kung usapan NPA lang di ba si Corry ang nag pardon kay joma sison?
  • ^magsimula ka muna kay Sen. ninoy.

    hahaha, baka maOT na tayo pag lecture ka sir...
  • di naman OT trip down memory lane lang hehehe.. parati nya kasi mini-mention ang NPA eh kahit wala naman may gusto sa atin nito.. puro sya leftist-npa-leftist.. pag salungat sa opinyon nya leftist. pag oppose sa admin NPA

    wala na ba syang ibang alam?
  • hahaha,

    saan ba tayo magsisimula, sa lolo ni Pnoy? kay Sen. Ninoy?

    ikaw na bahala.

    mukhang mauuwi na to sa marcos thread. hehe
  • i am PRO CONSTITUTION
    uy, nagpapauso ng political position. magtayo na ng party-list. ano tawag sa inyo? constitutionalists, constitutioners? batang batasan?

    yang saligang batas na yan ang nagpatalsik kay Corona
    wrong again, baluktot na opinyon mo na naman ang pina-iiral mo. impeachment is a political process at hindi rule of law ang pina-iiral. it's a vote of confidence, or in the case of ex-Chief Justice Corona, a vote of no confidence. the senators have deemed him unfit to hold the position of the Supreme Court Chief Justice kasi the senators believe Corona was hiding his unexplained wealth kaya hindi kumpleto ang SALN nya.
  • Ano ba gusto nyo? Mawala din itong thread na ito katulad nung isang thread? Yun ba gusto nyo? Umayos kayo! Pareparehas tayong mawawalan.

    On topic:

    Ano ba gusto nyo mangyari ngayon? Palagay nyong unconstitutional ang DAP. O eh ano? Mabuting may nasa isip kayong solusyon hindi yung mapalabas lang na tama kayo ng kuro kuro. Sa ngayon kasi, ang nakikita ko, hindi mahalaga kung ano ang TAMA o MALI. Kasi dapat mas pagtuunan kung ano ang MAS MAKABUBUTI para sa bansa. Bigyan nyo kami ng naiisip nyong solusyon para naman maliwanagin kami at baka makiisa kami sa naisin nyo.

    Madaming pilipit na lawyer. Kayang paikutin ang batas. Ang morally wrong nagagawang tama. Madaming ganyan. Lalo na kung letter by letter pag ganyan ang basehan. Dami ngang masasamang tao na hindi masabing kriminal (dahil hindi convicted) dahil sa magagaling na lawyers eh. Kaya nga may DDS dahil sa mga butas din ng constitution at pulpol na taga pagpatupad ng batas.

    Regarding cha-cha o kahit anong amendment ng batas, mas gusto ko malinis muna ang mga gagawa ng batas para sigurado. Kasi kung sila ang mga nanjan pa din, eh wala... parang naglokohan lang tayo. Kung may mas prone sa kasamaan dito sa pulitika, mas malapit sa kurapsyon ang mga nasa legislative branch. Kadalasan kasi pwede sila for re-election. Sila sila pa din anjan.
  • basagin ko lang ang maling akala nyo tungkol sa leftist...

    In left-right politics, left-wing politics are political positions or activities that accept or support social equality, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality. It is typically justified on the basis of concern for those in society who are perceived as disadvantaged relative to others and an assumption that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished.
    The spectrum of left-wing politics ranges from centre-left to far left (or ultra-left). The term centre left describes a position within the political mainstream. The terms far left and ultra-left refer to positions that are more radical. The centre-left includes social democrats, social liberals, progressives and also some democratic socialists and greens (in particular the eco-socialists). Centre-left supporters accept market allocation of resources in a mixed economy with a significant public sector and a thriving private sector. Centre-left policies tend to favour limited state intervention in matters pertaining to the public interest.


    cooperative is leftist?
    One such system is the cooperative economy, a largely free market economy in which workers manage the firms and democratically determine remuneration levels and labour divisions. Productive resources would be legally owned by the cooperative and rented to the workers, who would enjoy usufruct rights


    freeware/open -source software is leftist?
    Michel Bauwens identifies the emergence of the open software movement and peer-to-peer production as a new, alternative mode of production to the capitalist economy and centrally planned economy that is based on collaborative self-management, common ownership of resources, and the production of use-values through the free cooperation of producers who have access to distributed capital.


    what? SSS is leftist?
    Social security schemes where workers contribute to a mandatory public insurance program. The insurance typically include monetary provisions for retirement pensions and survivor benefits, permanent and temporary disabilities, unemployment and parental leave. Unlike private insurance, governmental schemes are based on public statutes and not contracts, so that contributions and benefits may change in time and are based on solidarity among participants. Its funding is done on an ongoing basis, without direct relationship with future liabilities.
  • Sa mga gusto sa impeachment:
    Kung ma-impeach si Pnoy, ok lang ba na si Binay maging President sa inyo? Kung ayaw kay Binay, impeachment ulit? Matutuwa sa inyo si Joma niyan.
    Aware ba kayo sa impact sa economy ng impeachment?
  • bakit nag iba na yung thread ? hehe. back to topic guys.

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