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Check list for a graduating CS student.

  • After learning the syntax of a language, next step is to learn the concepts of OOP: Inheritance, Encapsulation, Polymorphism, and Abstraction. Then after that, next is Design Patterns.

    yan ang mga basics na dapat mo malaman, then after nyan, try to improve your logical thinking. Don't forget that all those mentioned above are just like tools, you need to know how to use them best. Sa current work ko, dami na ako encounter na programmer, daming alam sa programming language pero pag binigyan na ng problem e.g. fixing software bug, sobrang tagal makapagbigay ng analysis, madalas wrong analysis pa, dinadaan nalang sa workarounds, yung tipong hindi talaga napo-point out yung ultimate root cause. Nakikita kong reason, some people stop asking themselves kung baket ganito at ganyan yung design ng software at kung ano ba talaga yung ultimate goal kung baket ganito at ganyan yung requirements ng software, etc. So sa case mo since wala kapa sa actual job, pwede ka nga magparticipate sa mga forums like open source software then help to think and fix bugs.

    Pag mag aapply ka for a job, una titignan is yung skillset, so you need a good resume, then after nun is exam/interview, dito mo kelangan yung good logical thinking especially sa technical interview and ofcourse good communication. I just also want pount out, a certification is nothing if you can't demostrate that you are really certified but ofcourse it helps you to pass to the first stage of job application(to get a job interview).
  • Ayos ito daming input...

    Graduating student narin ako...

    Focus ko ngayon is mobile developing (iOS, Objective-c, cocoa) planning to go back to java and do android as well...

    Ok ba itong field na pinili ko mobile developing or mas ok paring yung mga structure type...

    Yung tipong pang mga system ng company..?

    Planning rin na mag Masteral agad after graduation...

    What school ok for masteral..?

    Options ko are APC or CSB or ano po sa tingin ninyo mga ok pa na school for masteral..?

    Right now nag sisideline lang ako ng mobile developer sa school for my fellow student yung tipong kami gumagawa ng mga program ng thesis nila...

    Pwede mo ba isali sa portfolio mo yung mga nagawa mo thesis for fellow student mo since ikaw naman ang nag develop nun..?

  • Focus ko ngayon is mobile developing (iOS, Objective-c, cocoa) planning to go back to java and do android as well...

    Ok ba itong field na pinili ko mobile developing or mas ok paring yung mga structure type...


    The good:
    You can earn a lot of money today since everyone is trying to cash in on the mobile technology bandwagon.

    The bad:
    As the mobile technology development sector becomes saturated with experienced developers, competition among your peers could arise, and your salary may start to dwindle.


    Yung tipong pang mga system ng company..?


    There are not a lot of hardcore, back-end developers and many of them have reached their retirement age. You should consider that option for job security reasons.


    Planning rin na mag Masteral agad after graduation...

    What school ok for masteral..?


    If you can, study abroad instead. It may be more expensive but you'll get your chance to apply for and get a Software Engineer position in various top tech companies.
    Also, many public universities, specifically the UC and CSU systems in California offer financial aid, grants, and scholarships to international students.
    Those could help alleviate the costs of your education.


    Pwede mo ba isali sa portfolio mo yung mga nagawa mo thesis for fellow student mo since ikaw naman ang nag develop nun..?


    Why not...? Put as much as you can to make yourself stand out and be recognized from the rest of the competition.

    -- edited by ezroot on Jan 02 2013, 08:50 AM
  • Wow thanks ng sobra sa naparaming input. It gave me a lot to think about. I do not how to assess my skills and how much I have learned by studying on my own instead. I know I am still scratching the surface and I have much to learn. Siguro I need to learn how to learn more.

    Sana me mahanap ako ng magandang open-source para sakin at matapos ko itong game na ginagawa ko. Thanks guys!
  • Ano po ba ang ok na sahod for a entry level mobile developer..?

    Technically Apple developer how much po ideal sahod maganding isagot if ever ask how much ang income gusto..?

    Help naman planning to apply for a job kasi and i have no idea kong magkano sasabihin kong magkano ba gusto ko income...
  • Hello me iask lang ako, meron bang school discrimination dito sa pilinas pagdating sa mga oppurtunities sa programming world?
  • @ezroot! WEW~! Thank you so much sa pagbibigay ng reference! hehe sige po susubukan lahat ng mga suggested books dito.


    In my personal experience, when reading books. Madaling ma-side track sa maraming bagay kc sobrang daming sources/ways para matuto. Yung tipong hanggang 3-5 chapters lang out of 26 chapters for every book na babasahin. If that is the case: at some point mapapagod ka kc wala ka naman na-mamaster (up to the point na pwede mo ilagay sa resume).

    I suggest na gawing mong goal na tapusin ang isang book na gusto mo (or at least until ramdam mo master mo na).
  • ^Yeah, madaling magningas kugon lalo na kapag me sariling kang projects. Lalo na mahirap pagsabayin ang personal training at education sa college education. I found it hard, very hard. Dami din pinpapaproject pag di mo nagawa lagapak.

    But I am able to finish some book. I am still sticking to scott meyers and an engineering book in C++.
  • Just want to share my experience how I learned programming and created some "real-world" projects, then started our own software company that became an accredited software development company by one of the largest telco company in the Philippines.

    I didn't learn how to program "real-world" projects in school. Nagsimula ako mag-program nung nagka-idea ako na gusto ko magkaroon ng sariling software company 5 years ago. Kinontak ko ang kaibigan ko na may-ari ng maliit na Call Center para gumawa ng Intranet Monitoring System para sa kanilang company sa "maliit" na halaga.

    Nang pumayag sila na gagawa ako ng web-based system using .NET sa napakamurang halaga, I bought a book and I read it for 3 or 4 days. I needed to learn ASP.NET, VB.NET, SQL, JavaScript, etc. in a matter of 5 days to meet my deadline na 2 weeks para sa isang working project. Then, I started working "very hard" mga 10 to 14 hours a day to develop web applications from the ground up. Kapag may ilang "bugs" at problems during development, ang mga bestfriends ko ay sina "GOOGLE", "WWW.ASP.NET", at "STACKOVERFLOW". Silang tatlo ang nakatulong sa akin to finish and deploy a working dynamic web application in a matter of 2 weeks!

    Since then, kailangan ko na i-improve ang skills ko by attending seminars, watching video trainings, joining online community, and teaching IT students.

    Last year, I left my full-time job as a Project Manager sa isang software company sa Makati to start our "own" software development company. When we launched our product two months later, a telco company got interested with us at naging accredited software development kami.

    Right now, I'm planning to offer seminars and trainings sa mga students and some professionals to share my knowledge, skills, and experiences na baka makatulong sa kanilang career at interest sa programming, particularly Microsoft .NET technology.

    Thanks and More power.
  • @mitxpress

    thank you po sa story. Nakaka inspire ^_^

    Btw, nag aaccept po ba kayo ng OJT sa company nyo po? Magtatake po kasi ako ng OJT this summer, at naghahanap po ako ng company na papasukan na matututo talaga ako. Yong "real world" project po ^^.
  • Ako naghahanap so far na magpag-OJT. haha Nice story though.
  • @nicknyak, thanks. PM mo lang ako sa mga updates kung may napasukan ka na for your OJT.

    @neonwarge04, thanks you.
  • Naghahanap din ako ng OJT eh, I am from province nga pala, pero me bahay kami sa CALABARZON so I think somewhere near Manila or Makati ok na. Meron na ako 2 lead pero di pa yun sure. Naghahanap pa din ako.

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