Need advice on alternative cure for Cancer

• intrapata on March 23, 2013 08:14 AM

  ^ facts

• pcruztemp on March 23, 2013 11:25 AM

  
  btw, yan yung pang araw araw namin ginagawa nung buhay pa mom ko. pero since stage 4 na sya nung madiagnose, madami sya therapy o treatment daily na naka tulong talaga. "BUT" hindi uubra yun kung di nya ginawa yung mga nasa taas.
  
  Ilan sa mga therapy nya nagpapa biomed sya 2-3 times a week.
  Live cell therapy (Stem cell) w/c is iniimport pa namin dati. i dunno kung meron na to locally. 2.5k per vial. 2 vials per day x 9yrs nya tinake ito.
  she sleeps on a heated jade bed.
  regular massage/spa treatment.
  and gazillions of vitamins and supplements.
  at one point nag vegan din kami, zero meat intake, pero di namin kinaya.

  
  
  sa dami dami ng ginagawa nya pati lifestyle change like special diet and lots of water how are you sure which one was the one what cured her?
  or maybe none of the above cured her. What if she is just lucky enough to be one of the rare cases of cancer that gets better by herself? they call that
  
  

  Spontaneous remission
  From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  
  
  Spontaneous remission, also called spontaneous healing or spontaneous regression, is an unexpected improvement or cure from a disease that appears to be progressing in its severity. These terms are commonly used for unexpected transient or final improvements in cancer. Spontaneous remissions concern cancers of the haematopoietic system (blood cancer, e.g. leukemia), while spontaneous regressions concern palpable tumors; however, both notions are often used interchangeably.
  ...
  Frequency of spontaneous regression in cancer
  
  It has long been assumed that spontaneous regressions, let alone cures, from cancer are rare phenomena, and that some forms of cancer are more prone to unexpected courses (melanoma, neuroblastoma, lymphoma) than others (carcinoma). Frequency was estimated to be about 1 in 100,000 cancers;[2] however, in reality this ratio might be largely under- or overestimated. For one, not all cases of spontaneous regression can be apprehended, either because the case was not well documented or the physician was not willing or literate enough to publish, or simply because the patient did not show up in a clinic any more. On the other hand, for the past 100 years almost all cancer patients have been treated in one way or the other, such that the influence of treatment cannot always be excluded.
  
  At least for small tumors the frequency of spontaneous regression most likely was drastically underrated. In a carefully designed study on mammography it was found that 22% of all breast cancer cases underwent spontaneous regression.[3]

  
  
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  its good that your mother got better but was it spontaneous remission or a real cure or even placebo effect because of something she did or take? we'll never know because your sample size is only one. The only way we'll know for sure is to get a few thousand people with the same cancer at the same stage and have them exactly do what your mother did and then crunch the statistics
  
  the placebo effect is a real effect. We can measure it objectively like in the levels of endorphins in the blood
  
  -- edited by pcruztemp on Mar 23 2013, 11:32 AM

• pcruztemp on March 23, 2013 11:28 AM

  ^ facts

  
  
  anecdotal evidence is of very limited value

• Peorth on March 23, 2013 09:32 PM

  anecdotal evidence is of very limited value

  
  
  Indeed. Just because one person did this and did that and had something positive turn out it doesn't mean anything. It's anecdotal evidence, which is the worst form of "evidence." Does anyone even recall noni juice? A few years ago it was a craze and lots of anecdotal evidence came out from various people claiming it cured a lot of things. Fast forward several years and where is noni juice now? Relegated to the trashbin of stuff that never really worked.

• pilyo_bolero_e07867 on March 26, 2013 03:11 AM

  sa dami dami ng ginagawa nya pati lifestyle change like special diet and lots of water how are you sure which one was the one what cured her?
  or maybe none of the above cured her. What if she is just lucky enough to be one of the rare cases of cancer that gets better by herself? they call that

  
  
  FYI. She was never cured. no one said she was cured. Her cancer is there all along.
  
  yung cancer nya NEVER nag regress,. literally andun lang, never lumiit, pero di nag progress.
  
  You see ikaw na mismo nagsabi na knowing is battle half won. That is true.
  
  keyword dyan ay change in lifestyle.
  
  The things she did/took worked in conjunction with each other. HINDI mag wowork yung ng wala ang isa. lahat importante. very concious effort but it paid off.
  
  WALANG ONE MED CURE ALL.
  
  Like Noni juice. Noni is good, but useless kung yun lang.
  
  nung hindi na nya kaya ipag patuloy ang lifestyle na yun, unti unti na hindi nya ginagawa yung tamang diet, wala na. derederecho na, sobrang bilis nag deteriorate ng katawan.
  
  And sa totoo lang hindi rare case ang sa nanay ko. education lang. Kasi naman yung ibang tao, pag sinabing alternative as in hindi na nagpapacheck sa doctor. like may kakilala ako na may dengue anak nya, pinainom ng tawa tawa at di na dinala sa hospital. nag self medicate. That is SOOOOO STUPID!!!
  
  Ang tawa tawa kahit anong tanggi ng DOH, PROVEN effective sa pag papadami ng platelets, BUT, HINDI SYA GAMOT SA DENGUE.
  
  like what my mom did, tulungan lang ang katawan, bigyan ng bala kumbaga to fight the decease, kung mataas ang platelet mas makakalaban ang katawan. pero need pa din pa hospitalize.

• pilyo_bolero_e07867 on March 26, 2013 03:18 AM

  Spontaneous remission

  
  
  oh btw, may kakilala ako na nakaranas nito.
  
  tita ng kakilala ko lang.
  
  may cancer of the lymph nodes sya, mahirap lang sila so di talaga mapagamot, as in ang bilis ng pag laki ng bukol then pumutok na, mabaho and all.
  
  then one day, paalis sila, sobrang sakit daw, pumasok sya sa cr, then di nya alam ano nangyari pumutok as in parang pigsa na sinuka ng katawan yung bukol. dumogo ng sobrang itim na dugo, then nung tumigil yung pag durugo, nag flat yung bukol nya then after a few days she felt good. kaya lang after ilang months ng tumubo ulet mga bukol wala na tuloy tuloy na din. I guess that is one very good example ng Spontaneous remission. as in nawala yung bukol nya at nag ok sya ng wala naman talaga sya ginagawa.

• von21 on March 26, 2013 03:25 AM

  ^P R A Y E R

• pilyo_bolero_e07867 on March 26, 2013 03:28 AM

  and my mom did last for almost 10yrs. even her doctors. who swears she will die in 3mos kung di maalis tumor nya and di mag undergo ng chemo, admit that what ever she is doing is very effective and ipag patuloy lang. But still they insist na kung maalis yun tumor at ma chemo mas ok at maging cancer free sya. I honestly think tama naman yun.

• pcruztemp on March 26, 2013 09:04 AM

  FYI. She was never cured. no one said she was cured. Her cancer is there all along.
  
  yung cancer nya NEVER nag regress,. literally andun lang, never lumiit, pero di nag progress.
  
  You see ikaw na mismo nagsabi na knowing is battle half won. That is true.
  
  keyword dyan ay change in lifestyle.
  
  The things she did/took worked in conjunction with each other. HINDI mag wowork yung ng wala ang isa. lahat importante. very concious effort but it paid off.

  
  
  how do we know that it was all of them cooperating or only one of them or maybe none of them that caused the cancer to become stable? maybe another person with the same disease doing the exact same thing would have a different outcome
  
  there are cases of spontaneous remission where the cancer doesnt get cured, stable lang di lumalaki for years
  
  -- edited by pcruztemp on Mar 26 2013, 09:11 AM

• pilyo_bolero_e07867 on March 26, 2013 09:36 PM

  how do we know that it was all of them cooperating or only one of them or maybe none of them that caused the cancer to become stable? maybe another person with the same disease doing the exact same thing would have a different outcome

  
  
  
  may cancer organization that does the same thing. that is why I can say na "HINDI RARE" case ang nanay ko. Hindi sya ang nauna at hindi din sya ang huli. pero need ng dedication at resources/contacts. marami din na nafifeature sa tv. but may pagka misleading lagi ang mga feature sa tv. may hina highlight lang na ginamit. na pag ung ang ginamit gagaling. NOT TRUE.
  
  again let me reiterate, "WALANG CURE ALL". no such thing.
  
  my mom did "nothing fancy". she just tried to eat as healthy as possible. gave her body all it needs to recuperate.
  
  you dont have to believe if you dont want to. im not trying to convince you. what im trying to say is for those looking for alternative solution, eat right, live right. na sa panahon natin sa ngayon ay napaka hirap gawin. Kahit mag gulay ka ng mag gulay di mo alam kinakargahan mo pala katawan mo ng carcinogens.
  
  also iwasan ang mga marketing ng mga MLM na cure all. kahit anong sakit kaya gamutin. NO SUCH THING.

• macber2 on March 26, 2013 09:45 PM

  kahit alisin ng alisin ang tumor babalik pa rin yang kasi hindi yung cause ang ginagawan ng solution..and chemotherapy itself is a cancer..its like killing cancer with a cancer..pinalitan mo lang din so baliwala...eat the right foods....food matters.. =) hth

• pilyo_bolero_e07867 on March 26, 2013 09:54 PM

  .eat the right foods....food matters.. =) hth

  
  
  
  agree

• pcruztemp on March 27, 2013 12:02 AM

  may cancer organization that does the same thing. that is why I can say na "HINDI RARE" case ang nanay ko. Hindi sya ang nauna at hindi din sya ang huli.

  
  
  have them make a well designed study with their method. publish a paper in a peer reviewed journal and they could win a nobel prize

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