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  • man's spirit is either holy spirit or evil spirit...minsan evil spirit or minsan holy spirit...

    man's spirit either holy or (wicked)evil spirit....


    san mo po nabasa yan at paano mo ipaliliwanag yan na ayon sa bible...?
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    hallie Send Message View User Items on November 20, 2009 04:26 PM
    @wynx

    San mo nabasa yung Godhead saka yung God the Son?

    -- edited by hallie on Nov 20 2009, 04:40 PM


    Matthew 28:19
    19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    about Godhead
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  • tanong po para sa inyong lahat:

    ano po ang paniwala nyo sa taong namatay? saan po mapupunta ang kanyang:

    katawan
    kaluluwa
    espiritu



    katawan- babalik sa alabok
    kaluluwa - heaven or hell (wala itong kamatayan)
    espiritu - babalik sa Diyos

    Genesis 2
    7 the LORD God formed the man [e] from the dust (alabok) of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit), and the man (soul) became a living being.

    soul (kaluluwa) is eternal - it was created when the dust and breath of life were combined...

    before the fall of man - spirit => soul => body (righteous)
    after the fall of man - body =>soul => spirit

    that's why Jesus came to earth to restore the original status of man in the sight of God....
  • ano po ang paniwala nyo sa taong namatay? saan po mapupunta ang kanyang:


    katawan sa Lupa.

    Kaluluwa? bakit po me nakapag patunay na ba na meron tlgang langit at lupa?
  • man's spirit is either holy spirit or evil spirit...minsan evil spirit or minsan holy spirit...


    Genesis 2
    7 the LORD God formed the man [e] from the dust (alabok) of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit), and the man (soul) became a living being.

    so by this verse, imposibleng ang inihinga sa atin ng Diyos ay holy or evil spirit...

    breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit) - ito ay buhay natin na buhat sa Diyos kaya dapat natin pahalagahan at gamitin para sa Kanyang kaluwalhatian lamang dahil anumang oras ay maaring kunin sa atin Niya
  • @fazzruls

    katawan sa Lupa.

    Kaluluwa? bakit po me nakapag patunay na ba na meron tlgang langit at lupa?


    wala ba tayo sa lupa?

    mahirap kita sagutin kung hindi ka naman naniniwala sa bible...
  • Note: There is no such thing as Trinity in the Holy Scriptures or Godhead. There is only one God, God created human beings and the spirits, logically God cannot be his creation.

    For example you created a speaker box, amps and microphone....then you speak on the microphone and the sounds or your words is in the speaker that can be heard by other persons. The words that comes from the speaker is your words but you are not the speaker box. Jesus is just like the speaker box that God gave his words, and the Words is from God. God cannot be Jesus as his creation or same as the speaker box that cannot be you.

    A thousand times mentioned in the Bible that Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel and the word of God was put it his mouth as the light or guidance. As Jesus said, I am the Way, The Truth and The LIfe to the Father which is in Heaven.
  • @nzicon

    Note: There is no such thing as Trinity in the Holy Scriptures or Godhead. There is only one God, God created human beings and the spirits, logically God cannot be his creation.


    such thing such thing ka dyan...

    Matthew 28:19
    19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    pakipaliwanag mo yan san may talata ka ha..huwag puro such thing
  • puro baybol na lang ba ang pinagtatalunan nyo, walang mananalo dyan kundi....



























    commercial lang, tuloy nyo lang ang inyong pagsasaliksik, LOLz...
  • yung word na God, sa hebrew Elohim.

    yung Elohim, collective noun yun (tama ba term ko). parang "banda", singular sya pero referring to many people.

    hmm. hirap explain. pa-research na lang.
  • Matthew 28:19
    19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,


    Wala namang nabanggit na trinity dito....kung ganito ang sinabi....In the Name of the Father which is the Son and also the Holy Spirit...
  • Ikaw ay aking binibendisyunan sa ngalan ng Lolo mo, ng Tatay mo at ng Kapitbahay mo....baka may makarinig....Iisa pala ang Lolo mo, Tatay mo at kapitbahay mo...Trinity.
  • @nzicon, buynabay


    hindi kayo nagkakaintindihan.hehehe.

    parehas lang kaya sinasabi nyo.


    definition ng trinity (according to dictionary) - Isa lang ang Dios, meron lang 3 persona

    yung word ng "trinity", wala yun sa bible. pinauso lang ng mga Roman Catholic yun kung d ko nagkakamali.

    ang hindi lang ko sang ayo sa trinity e yung Ang Dios Ama raw, c Cristo at Espiritu Santo e, pantay pantay daw sila. wala raw ngkakaungusan.
  • Kung meron lang na sinabi si Jesus sa Bibliya na kahit isang salita lang na Ako ay Diyos at Sambahin ninyo ako.....kaya lang ang palagi niyang sinasabi ay sambahin niyo ang diyos ko at diyos ko na iisang diyos which is the first commandment of all.

    Kanya-kanyang paniniwala na lang yan...
  • yung word na God nga, sa hebrew "ELOHIM"

    collective noun yun.

    parang word na "family", consider as one lang pero marami persona na nakapaloob sa kanya. meron father, meron mother, me children

    ganun din yung word na "God", collective noun sya.
  • Sa Hebrew Elohim yung letrang im ...plural ibig sabihin ay universal...universal God
    Ang root word sa Hebrew ay Eloh , Sa linguahe ni Jesus na Aramaic ay Elaha/Alaha ang tawag niya sa Diyos niya...sa Arabic ay Allah...

    Ang Hebrew. Aramaic at Arabic ay semitic language meaning similar language.
  • For example you created a speaker box, amps and microphone....then you speak on the microphone and the sounds or your words is in the speaker that can be heard by other persons. The words that comes from the speaker is your words but you are not the speaker box. Jesus is just like the speaker box that God gave his words, and the Words is from God. God cannot be Jesus as his creation or same as the speaker box that cannot be you.


    IMO. Mali analogy mo. Jesus was there before creation began. He was at the right hand of God. He is God's word. He was not created.

    He is the word of God. His voice is not a creation but a part of his being.
  • Kung meron lang na sinabi si Jesus sa Bibliya na kahit isang salita lang na Ako ay Diyos at Sambahin ninyo ako.....kaya lang ang palagi niyang sinasabi ay sambahin niyo ang diyos ko at diyos ko na iisang diyos which is the first commandment of all.

    Kanya-kanyang paniniwala na lang yan...


    Malinaw nga, sinabi nya di sya nag punta para pagsilbihan kundi magsilbi. Kailan ba papasok sa kokote mo yan nzicon. Tama nga why should we worship his earthly appearance? If we did, he would not be God because no man has seen God. That is why we call him the word of God! What we honor is the Father when we pray. Bakit pilit mong pag hiwalayin ang Utos at ang nag utos?
  • IMO. Mali analogy mo. Jesus was there before creation began. He was at the right hand of God. He is God's word. He was not created.

    He is the word of God. His voice is not a creation but a part of his being.


    Kung mali ang analogy ko, basahin mo ito ulit, kung kulang pa dadagdagan ko pa. Na si Jesus ay created by God and God cannot be his creation tulad na maihahalintulad sa speaker box.

    The words that Jesus spoke is of his Father who taught him and sent him the light or guidance. As a speaker box kung ano lang ang sabihih sa kanya ay iyon ang lalabas sa bibig niya from God who created him in the womb of Mary.


    Jesus said in John Chapter 14

    10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does his works.

    11 Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father in me; or else believe me for the sake of the works themselves.

    12 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I go to the Father.



    John Chapter 8

    28 So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority but speak thus as the Father taught me.

    29 And he who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what is pleasing to him."

    30 As he spoke thus, many believed in him.

    31 Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, "If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples,

    32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."


    John Chapter 15

    4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me.

    5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

    6 If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned.

    7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you.

    10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.

    John 17:3

    3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

    20 "I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word, 21 that , that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

    John 12:49

    49 For I have not spoken on my own authority; the Father who sent me has himself given me commandment what to say and what to speak.

    Malilinaw naman sa mga talata na Only True God and Jesus was sent to tell the words like a speaker box.


    John 14:20

    At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.


    John 14:23

    Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.


    John 14

    28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away , and come again unto you. If ye loved me , ye would rejoice , because I said , I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

    31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment , even so I do . Arise , let us go hence.

    Kapag ikaw ay tinawag na sent ibig sabihin sinugo....kapag sinabing taught ikaw ay tinuruan. Kung ang diyos ay nagsakatawang tao sa kaanyuan ni Jesus alam niya na lahat at hindi na kailangan turuan. Kung kulang pa ang mga basehan ko sa Bibiliya pakisabi lang at ni isang kataga na walang sinabi si Jesus na siya ay Diyos at sambahin niyo ako. Ang sumasamba sa kanya ay sumusuway sa kanyang mga salita at sila ang mga nangaligaw.
  • Malinaw nga, sinabi nya di sya nag punta para pagsilbihan kundi magsilbi. Kailan ba papasok sa kokote mo yan nzicon. Tama nga why should we worship his earthly appearance? If we did, he would not be God because no man has seen God. That is why we call him the word of God! What we honor is the Father when we pray. Bakit pilit mong pag hiwalayin ang Utos at ang nag utos?


    He is the Word of God, magkakasundo tayo diyan but he shares no divinity because trinity were never mentioned in the Bible. Magkahiwalay ang Nag-uutos at Inuutusan kaya lang ang Utos ay iisa lang puwera lang kung suwayin ng inutusan ang inuutos sa kanya. Kung isa lang ang Nag-uutos at Inuutusan bakit pa kailangan mag-utos kung magttransform ka rin lang.
  • Nagbabase lang ako sa Bibliya at hindi sa paniniwala....may kanya-kanya tayong paniniwala sana lang ay hindi tayo iligaw ng ating mga paniniwala.
  • @nzicon

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