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Micro ATX users here!

  • NZXT/CorsairFractal/Silverstone/Lian Li are the best case makers na nakita ko from experience when ti come to substance+form. Magandi din Cooler Master when it comes to functionality pero ang papanget ng karamihan ng designs ng Cooler Master lalo na yung HAF Stacker. Di din fair ikumpara yung N200 sa Arc Mini R2 since different price range. Pang budget/mid end build ang N200 and more on for enthusiast micro build and Arc Mini R2. You get what you pay for ika nga.

    Personally mas ok para saken na gumastos ng mahal sa case since ito siguro yung pinka future proof na part ng pc. Pwede ka umabot ng ilang builds sa isang case kung maganda yung quality na nabili mo.

    Compare mo naman yung bitfenix matx cases, same price range pero ang advantage lng ng bitfenix is smaller size, disadvantage less cable management, few room for hdd, inverted mobo ( not the optimal position for the gpu), so kung importante lang sayo yung super small size go for bitfenix.

    Pero dun sa nagsabi na di maganda ang Arc Mini since mabigat, high build quality=more weight. Unless plano mo buhatin yung case habang gamit mo or plano mo bitbitin yung case kung saan-saan di issue ang weight.

    Pagdating sa designs, kanya kanyang taste lang yan. Aerocool, Raidmax, Coolermaster = Agressive designs na parang robot yung dating ng most cases. Corsair/NZXT/Fractal/Silverstone/Lian Li = More sleek,simple,classy designs of most of their cases.
  • Pero dun sa nagsabi na di maganda ang Arc Mini since mabigat, high build quality=more weight. Unless plano mo buhatin yung case habang gamit mo or plano mo bitbitin yung case kung saan-saan di issue ang weight.


    haha oo nga ewan ko kung bakit nga pala issue sayo ang weight sir. nasa lap mo ba yung cpu kapag ginagamit mo pc mo?
  • mga sir comment lng po

    N200 user po aq and tinignan ko ung

    Arc Mini halus pareho lng din pala

    4 slot ng pcie/same size ung case/pwestuhan

    ng mga fans pareho dn pati ung HDD same din

    ang pinagkaiba lng ata ung paint na white?? and

    ung thick ng metal???? eto lng yan e

    if buget N200 if with extra buget Arc Mini

    tigil n pagtatalo case lng yan

    importante ung laman heheh
  • honga kanya kanyang taste talaga. next time kasi pag mag cocomment about something subjective, like aesthetics, make it clear na opinyon mo yun. may magrereact naman talaga dun sa pagkakasabi ng baduy e.
  • Share ko lang...

    One reason why high-quality cases are heavy is because they use thicker panels in their construction. A major advantage of using thicker panels, especially steel ones, is they are less prone to vibration and produces less noise even when the case is loaded with a lot of components.

    If you install a lot of harddrives and fans inside a case without any form of dampening or decoupling, they will transmit their vibrations to the frame of the case and allow those vibrations to reverberate off the panels. This is the reason why you still hear the slight buzzing or humming sound of your fans and harddrives even if your case is totally closed and the panels tightly screwed on.

    With low-quality cases using very thin panels, they are more prone to noise because the panels are less dense and easier to vibrate. So they may be lightweight and easy to carry, but they are often noisier once you install lots of fans and harddrives :-)

    If you look at the recommended case section of Silent PC Review, most of the cases on the list use thick steel panels and are from top tier brands like Antec, Silverstone, and yes... Fractal Design :-)

    Silent PC Review - Recommended Cases
    <click here for link>
  • eto na N200 n parang Arc Mini hehe

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  • @meow2108

    May extra features naman si Fractal Arc Mini R2 over Cooler Master N200, hindi lang thicker and metal at white paint :-)

    - 3 silent fans included in the case with hydraulic bearings (120mm x2 and 140mm x1)
    - 3 speed integrated fan controller
    - Dust filters on front panel, top panel, and bottom panel
    - Tinted sidepanel window
    - Extra PCI slot

    So kung may extra budget, sa tingin ko sulit narin si Fractal Arc Mini R2. Complaint ko lang is medyo overpriced siya ngayon at Php 4K since dapat same price siya as Fractal Arc Mini R1 at Php 3.6K.
  • remove ^_^

    -- edited by meow2108 on Apr 18 2014, 08:30 PM
  • @sleepygeepy

    master tanung kulang po ang N200 pu ba is low class

    it because di xa kasing thick ng metal arc mini salamat ^_^
  • @sleepygeepy

    master tanung kulang po ang N200 pu ba is low class

    it because di xa kasing thick ng metal arc mini salamat ^_^
  • @sleepygeepy

    master tanung kulang po ang N200 pu ba is low class

    it because di xa kasing thick ng metal arc mini salamat ^_^
  • awts sorry ng flood ang bagal kc ng connection ku sorry po

    -- edited by meow2108 on Apr 18 2014, 01:41 PM
  • ^
    Pang summer yang build na yan ah... nice :-)

    Pero pa resize po...
  • @meow2018
    master tanung kulang po ang N200 pu ba is low class

    it because di xa kasing thick ng metal arc mini salamat ^_^

    Ah hindi sir hindi po siya low class. In fact one of the best Micro-ATX cases for the budget ang Cooler Master N200. Sa totoo lang dahil sa feature-to-price ratio niya, parang naging pointless narin bumili ng mga cheaper cases tulad ng Fractal Core 1000, Emaxx Rebel, Cougar Spike etc. Kapag sa budget builds madalas ni-re-recommend ang Micro-ATX specifically because of this case :-)

    Pero pag ang gusto mong build is yung super tahimik or silent PC type, hindi talaga suitable ang N200 dahil may vents sa front at side panel (for non-windowed version). Yung manipis na side panel pwede ma-lessen ang vibration by adding dampening material tulad ng thin foam or thin rubber mats. For the same price baka mas suitable pa ang NZXT Source 210 sa quiet na PC, pero yun lang hindi siya Micro-ATX at isa lang ang fan na kasama.

    -- edited by sleepygeepy on Apr 18 2014, 02:04 PM
  • @sleepy

    Very well said. Ewan ko na lang kung di mainitindihan ng kahit high school graduate yan. Hehe

    @meow

    Ako na lang sasagot, hindi naman sa low class, pero its not as the same league as Fractal's. Sinabi na din ng iba, mag kaiba at magkalayo ng presyo din kasi. Kaya hindi naman ito debate ng N200 vs. Arc Mini R2. Sa price din ng N200 na medyo mura, madame talagang may mas gusto dahil nga mura at maayos naman para sa price range niya. ;)
  • @meow2108
    eto advantages ng Arc Mini R2 vs N200:
    -built in fan controller
    -2x 5.25 bay vs 1x 5.25 sa N200
    -Modular Design (removable drive cages)
    -better water cooling support (360 rad top + 240 rad front both in push pull config)
    -build quality
    -better side window
    -more fan slots
    -offset mounting for top radiator meaning less chance of conflict between mobo and top radiator
    -rubber grommets of cable management holes
    -more space
    -dust filters everywhere

    Advantage of the N200 vs Arc Mini R2:
    -lower price
    -value of money

    BTW di din basehan yung thickness lang ng metal kung high or low class. Meron din case na di ganun kakapal yung metal pero pang high end din gaya ng Corsair 760t. Nasa features and functionality yan.

    Di ko din sinasabi ng hindi magandang case ang N200. Para sa price ng case na yan compared sa features na meron siya super good value for the money yan. Di lang fair comparison talaga since different price range sila and made for different types of users.
  • ^
    tama tama kau mga master

    tinignan kulang kc sa google image arc mini

    kako parang same lng s N200 for me ha hehe

    ang nangyare pala kung baga sa car Arc Mini is Lexus

    N200 is Toyota hehehe salamat mga master

    sorry ulit sa flood d ku sadya hehe ^_^
  • Masakit man aminin, itong PS07 ko parang papel lang yung steel na ginamit. Manipis din ang paint job, haha. Pero bumabawi naman sa unique interior layout, features, and aesthetics.

    Was finally able to completely remove the HDD bays.

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  • maganda din pala pang case mod itong DEFINE R4
    <click here for link>
  • parang Pacquiao lang yan vs Muhammad Ali.
    Si Pacquiao si N200 na the best sa division niya
    pero di mo pwedeng ilaban kay Muhammad kasi malaki.
    hahah
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  • @Meow2108

    bangis nga nyan, pero paki resize yung pictures nnyo po to 800x600

    Rules and Guidelines on Posting Images in the
    Forums/Negotiation Messages/Feedback Ratings.

    1) Maximum size of image/s posted should not exceed
    800 x 600 or vice versa; strictly two images per post only.

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  • bagong linis...

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  • @bryan14c

    cge sir reremove ku nalang heheh

    d aq marunung mg resize eh cnxa na po
  • n200 user ako pero plan ko rin magpalit ng case "pag" may budget na haha dati choice ko is corsair obsidian 350d pero nakita ko presyo ni arc mini r2 ayos mas mura and tingin ko ok naman siya nagustuhan ko yung dust filters na madaling alisin

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