IBM Thinkpad users thread

• wmaxell on November 20, 2009 05:01 AM

  @b0ss_sa_b0ss & forcebalance
  
  Have both of you tried downloading the older bios of your respective thinkpads from the Lenovo site? There should be a list of all the older bios available.

• demonoid724 on November 20, 2009 06:56 AM

  aside from not functioning the center click
  
  i notice all of the function keys accompanied by "Fn" are not working anymore.
  drivers were updated/installed/reinstalled.
  
  the last thing i made was the bios update to the latest release, which is now i suspect to be the cause.
  
  is there a way to downgrade the bios?
  
  badly need help
  thanks
  

  
  
  the problem is due to the latest version of Hotkey driver.... yan din ang prob ko after upgrading to 2.23.0000 Release Date: 2009/10/05, the latest version doesnt work or has problem on some thinkpad models even if it is listed as supported. tried rolling back to previous version and FN keys were working again.
  
  
  

  is there a way to downgrade the bios?

  
  
  you can download the previous BIOS version and apply it but you might also need to downgrade the embedded controller... but be very extra careful though, medyo risky kasi as it might crash your system...

• b0ss_sa_b0ss on November 20, 2009 12:23 PM

  tried rolling back to previous version and FN keys were working again.

  
  paano gagawin to sir? saan ko ba pwede madownload yung mga previous drivers?

• demonoid724 on November 20, 2009 01:02 PM

  just an update:
  
  if you installed Hotkey driver 2.23.0000:
  
  

  Presentation Director version 4.04 or higher should be installed in case that the operating system is Windows XP or Vista.

  
  
  
  
  
  Fn+F7 now works properly with Presentation Director 4.04 installed on top of Hotkey driver 2.23.0000

• wmaxell on November 20, 2009 03:38 PM

  paano gagawin to sir? saan ko ba pwede madownload yung mga previous drivers?

  
  
  Just go to the Lenovo site and under support is downloads and drivers.
  
  <click here for link>

• demonoid724 on November 20, 2009 07:25 PM

  i can now switch display modes with Presentation director 4.04 installed on top of Hotkey drivers 2.23.0000 but still, Fn+F3 (turn off LCD), Fn+F5 (switch WiFI on/off) are not working... seems power management has something to do with this.

• b0ss_sa_b0ss on November 20, 2009 07:40 PM

  now tried clean install windows 7 but got the same problem here.
  
  all keys associated with "Fn" keys are not working. now i suspect my keyboard.
  
  kelangan ko na siguro ulit dalhin to sa service center.
  
  ------
  one more thing... compatible ba ang vista driver dito sa windows7?
  
  sobrang baba score ng video card ko(x1400) sa WEI.
  no video card update using system update. i am thinking of installing vista driver.... compatible ba?
  
  -- edited by b0ss_sa_b0ss on Nov 20 2009, 07:46 PM

• demonoid724 on November 20, 2009 08:30 PM

  now tried clean install windows 7 but got the same problem here.
  
  all keys associated with "Fn" keys are not working. now i suspect my keyboard.
  
  kelangan ko na siguro ulit dalhin to sa service center.
  
  ------
  one more thing... compatible ba ang vista driver dito sa windows7?
  
  sobrang baba score ng video card ko(x1400) sa WEI.
  no video card update using system update. i am thinking of installing vista driver.... compatible ba?
  
  

  
  
  yes... vista drivers (that would give you Aero) works on windows 7 better than xp (without Aero). just make sure its the latest.
  
  have you checked the Fn Lock setting sa BIOS (if it exists)?
  
  you can first try to remap Fn key to CTRL or ALT to see if somethings wrong with that key before sending it to the service center.
  
  btw, if you have PC-Doctor installed, theres a keypress test to check if all keys are working.
  
  -- edited by demonoid724 on Nov 20 2009, 08:34 PM

• b0ss_sa_b0ss on November 20, 2009 08:36 PM

  you can first try to remap Fn key to CTRL or ALT

  
  sir paano ginagawa to?
  
  yes, nakikita ko sa bios yung Fn key.

• demonoid724 on November 20, 2009 08:53 PM

  ^^try this
  
  <click here for link>

• b0ss_sa_b0ss on November 20, 2009 09:08 PM

  No Fn key on the list sir. no clue for the code for the Fn key.

• demonoid724 on November 20, 2009 09:16 PM

  dont look at the list... press the Type key button sa ibaba then press the corresponding key Fn and the key you want to remap to ex: CTRL or ALT.
  
  then write to registry... reboot.
  
  -- edited by demonoid724 on Nov 20 2009, 09:19 PM

• b0ss_sa_b0ss on November 21, 2009 02:39 AM

  i already confirmed, my keyboard "Fn" key doesnt work. i did replaced the keyboard with office thinkpad laptop and huaaala Fn key is working.
  
  i will send it back to lenovo center.
  
  sana palitan ng bagong keyboard heeh

• demonoid724 on November 21, 2009 07:41 AM

  ^^ you sent that for repair before right? much better if you can have the other problems checked as well... baka di maganda ang pagkaka-repair nila previously thats why you're having other problems cropping up... their technicians kasi follow FRU symptom flowchart to diagnose so theres a chance of having misdiagnosed probs.

• vipeeflores on November 21, 2009 08:05 AM

  nakakainis talaga magrepair mga OJT nila sa service center :D

• wmaxell on November 21, 2009 09:19 AM

  i can now switch display modes with Presentation director 4.04 installed on top of Hotkey drivers 2.23.0000 but still, Fn+F3 (turn off LCD), Fn+F5 (switch WiFI on/off) are not working... seems power management has something to do with this.

  
  
  I'm assuming its Windows 7, no problems with both. Do you have Power Manager installed? Mine is, Fn+F3 brings up a menu (from this menu, you can set it up to turn off LCD rather than bring the menu up). Using latest 3.05
  
  -- edited by wmaxell on Nov 21 2009, 09:28 AM

• vipeeflores on November 21, 2009 09:33 AM

  Sakin din working naman all fn+Function keys sa Windows 7.
  Install ThinkPad Power Management Driver and ThinkPad Power Manager sir.
  They're different from each other but mas essential yung driver kesa sa manager since may sarili rin namang manager ang WIndows 7, hindi nga lang kasing ganda ng sa ThinkPad kaya recommended pa rin install itong dalawa hehe.
  
  payo ko sir sa mga may keyboard problems install na din kayo ng Thinkpad Keyboard Customizer Utility hehe.
  
  para naman sa mga may Function problems, Install nyo na din Hotkey Features.
  
  all of them available for download sa lenovo support site.

• b0ss_sa_b0ss on November 21, 2009 09:46 AM

  afaik... kahit walang nakainstall na Fn Driver, other function will work, like brightness adjustment, numlock, led light. these are already embedded on the bios.
  
  pero yung sa akin... not working talalaga lahat.

• vipeeflores on November 21, 2009 10:25 AM

  ^ uu, basic na yun in any laptop sir.
  natry nyo na ba iassign yung Fn sa ibang key?
  anu kaya ginawa nila jan? xD

• demonoid724 on November 21, 2009 11:07 AM

  uu, basic na yun in any laptop sir.
  natry nyo na ba iassign yung Fn sa ibang key?
  anu kaya ginawa nila jan? xD

  
  
  it could also be a factory defect sa keyboard assy.
  
  

  Install ThinkPad Power Management Driver and ThinkPad Power Manager sir.
  

  
  
  Under Windows 7, Power Manager causes BSOD on ati3duag.dll on some ATI Radeon-based thinkpad models, same with Access Connections with Direct 3D enabled. tried installing both and disabled Direct 3D thru Direct X CPL, its working but I uninstalled them cause mas kailangan ko enabled yung Direct 3D. Windows Media Player also have video playback problems with Direct 3D enabled.
  
  -- edited by demonoid724 on Nov 21 2009, 11:21 AM

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